:thumbup

 

Just becareful so you don't end up looking at the sky. I personally have not done it but I know someone who did.

 

I heard that the throttle feels heavy after this mod. Is that true?

 

I've got the 1/5 turn throttle insert installed right now and am about to go to the 1/5.5. The throttle is a bit stiffer, but it's certainly not bothersome. I rode weekend before last for about 6 hours each day for three days. I didn't even think about the slightly tighter throttle, save for one time after being on the highway for over an hour.

Mine hasn't yet gotten me in any trouble yet, but there's always hope.




-Matt

 

Nope. To quote Goldilocks "its juuuuust right"

 

Sounds like I need to get around to doing this mod. It was one of the first things I found and bought thru TLZ when I got my TL >2 yrs ago. But its still sitting on the shelf. :dowhat

 

I loved it on my TLS.

 

My throttle doesn't feel any different, but the difference it makes is awesome.

:hail Rifleman

 

Sounds like something i have to get!

 

i definetly was a night and day difference for me

 

I've got one as well and love it although I do seem to go thru rear tires faster now :devious

 

da-umn, can't buy that kind of publicity.

This is one of the few "performance" mods you will actually feel (seat of the pants dyno), funny thing is I haven't added one single horse power to your bike, just given you access to what was always there.

In theory the throttle could feel 20% "heavier" because this insert simply gives you a mechanical advantage, increases the "gear ratio" between the grip and throttle body actuator. Physics says that if you decrease the throw, you must increase the resistance (because the spring on the TB remains the same)...

however in pratice, very few even actually notice the increased twist resistance (heavy feel), and those that do, get used to it in a few rides.

It takes about 2 to 4 weeks of driving, you will notice alot more "GOOOOOOOOO" the first few times out, and once or twice in that time period you will forget and give the throttle a good wack like you used to, and the rear will step out or the front will come up.

after the "break in" period your muscles have the new memory, everything is as it was, only you have full range of what the power plant has to offer.

it is, in the words of Rossi "moi moi good, no?"

anyone who is interested, just PM me and we'll get the process rolling. As always, the install instructions are in my signature, give them a read and see if it's something you think you want to have at. I would think it ranks in difficulty between an oil change (easy) and a brake pad replacement (difficult).

if you have any problems you have 24 hour tech support here, either I can walk you through problems, or half the time the guys who have done it can answer questions.

really makes the bike perform like it was designed to perform.

 

I would think it ranks in difficulty between an oil change (easy) and a brake pad replacement (difficult)

Brake Pad change difficult?:laugh:laugh:laugh

 

Haha, I was thinking the same thing.

 

I was just saying that install difficulty falls between those two, more difficult then an oil change but not as difficult as a break pad change.

if you like, could be between oil change (uber easy, one eyed midget can do while handcuffed) and brake pad change (better take the handcuffs off the midget)

:laugh

 

:laugh

 

I agree .. $ for $ this is the best mod you can do in my humble opinion. Transformed the bike and made it wild to ride away from the lights !! ...

:hail TLR's

 

I've been putting this off for a while now. I'm reading through this thread and looking at what's necessary to do the job reading the PDF. I gotta admit, changing oil and doing brakes on the bike aren't as difficult as how this looks. I can do the oil change, front and rear pads on my bike in 1/2 an hour. That includes making a sandwich and eating it along with a nice cup of juice. I am very well mechanically inclined and understand exactly what needs to be done, I have all the tools that are needed, and I even did a trial run in my head. Maybe I'm overanalyzing this but this is a crucial and "dangerous" mod. I just wanted to throw my 2 cents out there. I'll report back when it's done.

 

You are over analyzing it. I took my time so I could be sure not to mess anything up and it took like 20 mins. If you rushed through it, you could probably do it in under 5mins your first time. Honestly, getting the throttle cables adjusted right is the hardest part, and its not any different then without the insert, so you should know that even that is simple.

 

Rifleman... PM'ed you about this when I send you my CC, which will be within the next two days pending a reply to the PM.

Thanks for the communication before on the CCC, and I can't wait to add this too... cheers!

 

I agree..... best value for money mod I've come across. I have it fitted, and anyone considering this, do it. You won't regret it.

1 point to make while your doing it though, pay attention to the instructions and advice.
Make sure you know how far you need to cut the throttle cable housing, then cut it SMALL amounts other wise you'll make hard work for yourself trying to cut away larger pieces. You can always cut more off, but you can't add it back on.
Other than that its straight forward, and great fun when its done.

 

I have to admit that was the best mod for the money I ever did to my OLD TLS.

I miss it.

Three years and counting.

 

I have to admit that was the best mod for the money I ever did to my OLD TLS.

:stupid it wont give you more ponies but youll be able to use the ones you have a lot more often :thumbup

 

sounds like a hoot but what does it actually do?

 

Usually to get full throttle a lot of people have to twist the throttle as far as their wrist will allow, the reposition their hand on the grip and twist even further.
The 1/5th removes the reposition part, when you twist the throttle you can get wide open throttle (WOT) in one twist of the wrist.

Go for it, you will NOT regret doing this mod. small $ for a huge grin that lasts.
Even if you do you can remove it and go back to how it was originally. apart from the piece of housing you cut away, but this makes no difference.

 

Gives you full throttle with a fifth of turn instead of a quarter

 

as the other guys have said, reduces the throw from idle to WOT.

Sit your bike normally, grip normally. Now twist it to full throttle...

notice how your elbow is pointing at the ground, wrist cranked back, half leaning off the bike to the right side.

now twist it as far as you feel comfortable, with out regripping, or leaning or bending... that is about where the 1/5th insert will be when you are full throttle.

I think it's ideal for the street and even track days. You can pull away from stop lights and signs with out over reving or stalling out the bike, you can modulate the throttle in turns and traffic, you can maintain a constant speed when on the high way...

but you can pin it at any time, with out regrip or being out of shape.

everyone gets used to it after about a month of riding, just feels normal after that, but that first week or two, hell, that first ride after install is about a "pucker factor 9"

but everyone who tries it needs a grin-ectomy.

 

everyone gets used to it after about a month of riding, just feels normal after that, but that first week or two, hell, that first ride after install is about a "pucker factor 9"

but everyone who tries it needs a grin-ectomy.

I'd give it "pucker factor" of at least a 10 :thumbup