When I start to think about my next bike and look at whats out there nothing looks interesting. I rode a friends new R-1LE the other day and the first thing I noticed is the weight. I mean it weighs 100lbs more than my TL! No matter how nice the suspension is or strong the motor its just heavy. My bike is just easier to ride fast. I also did a Apex trackday at Miller Motorsports Park last week. All my trackdays this year so far have been with 10 or fewer bikes on the track at one time. So here I was out with 65 bikes at once. At least it was the big 4.5 mile track so it did not seem crowded. At the end of the day at least 10 guys with 1000cc inline 4s came up to me and said my bike was a rocket off the corners and they could not get past me on the straights. The combanation of v-twin power, slicks and 350lbs weight means that the moment I start to pick it up from full lean I am at full throttle! So untill the Japs make a new 90 degree motor I am keeping mine. But then today I hear about a TZ250 of possible GP spec thats new that could be had for a possible stupid low $ number! I may have 3 bikes soon.
Why Ride Heavy Bikes ?
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I'd say the only thing about your bike that would not work for me is the fact that it is meant for one rider. I need the extra strength from the stock subframe. I am sure TS could account for that in the design if the customer asked. The other limiter, of course, is cost. I already have close to $30K in my bike as is; to go the TS route would add a hell of a lot more to that, and not many folks can swing it.
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What kind of R1 did you sit on? I'm pretty sure a 06 R1 weighs 100 lbs LESS then the TLR
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Fixedmobilesuit said:
See steve's pic of art's bike, its not quite stock:spit
Art, I totally agree, bikes should be much lighter, even street bikes imho, but light weight doesn't sell in general - its blingy gimics like radial caliper mounting and high horsepower numbers that draw in the hordes of squids I think. I really like the recent popularity of supermoto where most of the competition bikes are sub 250lbs:thumbup
Comming from a 125cc MX/HS/GP background I tend to think anything over 200lbs is rather portly
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:eek I didnt see who was posting... :hail Art's bikeBikePilot said:Fixed
See steve's pic of art's bike, its not quite stock:spit
Art, I totally agree, bikes should be much lighter, even street bikes imho, but light weight doesn't sell in general - its blingy gimics like radial caliper mounting and high horsepower numbers that draw in the hordes of squids I think. I really like the recent popularity of supermoto where most of the competition bikes are sub 250lbs:thumbup
Comming from a 125cc MX/HS/GP background I tend to think anything over 200lbs is rather portly
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So the biggest improvement in weight reduction has been bigger lies about dry weights :eekBikePilot said:
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well... depends on how u look at it: you shouldnt compare wet weight from one bike to the dry weight of another. so basically you get both manufacturers numbers, usually dry weight because they all want to seem light, and compare those. And for the R1, I think is around 360Lbs and the TLS is about 450Lbs. Give or take a few lbs.
Now if you saying that the wet weight of the R1 is 450Lbs (it could be, I am not sure) then you'd have to get the same wet weight for the TLR... which will be more than 500Lbs. :O :O :O :O
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FYI, adavis bike weighs 365lbs WET. :coocoo
data pulled from here:
http://www.tlzone.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19923
data pulled from here:
http://www.tlzone.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19923
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