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TLS RHA Dimension please.....possible new billet RHA

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Please can someone either post or PM me with the RHA Dimensions. This can be ziggys or the crappy copy on ebay, doesn't matter. As soon as I have all the dimensions, hole sizes and thread length etc... I can start work on designing and making a Billet RHA for the TLS (adjustment without taking bolts out) . As these are few and far between, its prob a good idea for one of us to start making them again.:D
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Or another option that would be more cost effective,
find out what length everyone is running their rha at and get fixed 1 piece replacement link made at that length
If everyone is near the same set up you've already found the ideal length
There are a lot of pics if you search and its not hard to scale off them.

in fact you dont even need one just pull out the std one and make it off that.
Yep, both good ideas.

A fixed one would be easy to make from billet. Maybe a steel sleeve inside the holes would be better.
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Great thanks actls. What are the bore sizes in each end please?
Also need the size of the thread on the rose joint please
The advantage of the billet one is that the coupler is threaded right hand on the end to the aluminum yoke, and threaded left-handed on the heim joint end. That way it can be lengthened or shortened without removal. The stamped units with a bolt welded on have to be disconnected at one end to adjust the length.

So to determine the threads to use, you start with the purchased turnbuckle coupler, making sure the steel heim end has the smaller tap size; the weak point is the aluminum threads, so make sure they are large; bigger than the original ones would not be silly. I have one that's got the aluminum threads broken out where the locknut against the adjuster stresses the threads. Warn people that over-tightening will destroy the soft aluminum threads, and warn people that not tightening the locknut will also destroy the threads if it is loose enough to rattle...the rattle will just get worse & worse until it fails. Don't use a really soft grade of aluminum either.

There's really no reason to even use a heim eyeball joint; but if you make an aluminum bearing holder more like stock, make sure you make the threaded aluminum adjuster larger than the steel heim's threaded portion. The heim does accommodate any misalignment, but there shouldn't be any. The stock bearings probably have less friction and longer life IF they are maintained, but they do need maintenaince.

The heims come in different sizes, strengths, and lengths. Make sure it's threaded backward (left-hand). Get a really strong one, not one with a plastic insert bearing surface around the chrome eyeball; go for something metal, like bronze at least. This thing REALLY has a lot of force on it!

The turnbuckle adjuster sleeve comes in different lengths. A longer adjuster is preferable to a too-long heim shaft.

Some of the previous runs would only lengthen, or would only shorten. If you make it too long people can grind down the threaded end of the heim andmake it work shorter; if you make it too short the guy who wants to raise the bike is screwed.

If you made the aluminum threads a bit stronger somehow, that would be a valuable improvement in safety. A stronger grade of aluminum would help. Since it's a common right-hand thread, I would just use a steel stud into the aluminum clevis and into the adjuster. That way some dumb user can't strip out all of the aluminum threads by overtightening the locknuts, tightening down too far against the yoke, or tightening down the end of the aluminum stub so it bottoms against the end of the heim shaft inside the adjuster. Then the weak point becomes the steel stud into the clevis; you should consider a very large helicoil in the clevis.

The locknuts come in different thicknesses, from a skinny jam nut to a full-size nut. Use a really thin jam nut on the steel end, so that it doesn't waste shaft length. But don't use too skinny a locknut on the aluminum end or some dumb user will surely overtighten it and strip off all the aluminum threads at that end.

If you keep the aluminum threaded stub in the design, make sure you warn people not to tighten down too hard on the aluminum threads! If it were me, I'd get rid of the aluminum threads completely.
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These were built in American SAE sizes. You would probably use metric. Don't make the aluminum threads any smaller! Make them larger if possible, or use a steel stud instead.
Great thanks actls. What are the bore sizes in each end please?
Also need the size of the thread on the rose joint please
Mine is mounted on my TL. IIRC the picture was from Sam.

Might try sending Jeff (Ziggy999) an email with any questions. He hasn't been on here in a long time, and I haven't heard from him in a while. His email address was [email protected], or you can try sending him a pm and see if he answers. It'd be good to hear from him again.

Oh yeah, he made a few of these over the years :laugh

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I could send you enough bad parts to make one up, as long as you promise not to use it. I cleaned the parts up with taps & dies but there are really too many threads screwed up to call it safe. The overseas shipping is expensive & takes forever.
Mine is mounted on my TL. IIRC the picture was from Sam.

Might try sending Jeff (Ziggy999) an email with any questions. He hasn't been on here in a long time, and I haven't heard from him in a while. His email address was [email protected], or you can try sending him a pm and see if he answers. It'd be good to hear from him again.

Oh yeah, he made a few of these over the years :laugh

That's a good design.I have had one like that for the past 14 years on my S. Never had a prob with it.Still going strong.
:) Back then it was made by Vee Two Australia :hail
I could send you enough bad parts to make one up, as long as you promise not to use it. I cleaned the parts up with taps & dies but there are really too many threads screwed up to call it safe. The overseas shipping is expensive & takes forever.



That would be very helpfull thanks. Could you get a quote on shipping pls. I will pm my address
Can some one tell me where I can order that left/right hand adapter. Or what is the thread size.

I modelled the OEM link and make my own left/right hand bolt. I will post the drawings later.

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look at the older for sale threads - ziggy was / is selling 2 of those atm. If they have not been sold probably means there is no demand for them...........

here is that thread.................

http://www.tlzone.net/forums/looking-sell/141588-rha-tls.html#top

it's not quite clear if he has one left though.............
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