Carrozzeria wheels

And this is the stage two right?

So is this the new Y type?

horkn said:

the new y spokes are supposed to be lighter.. sounds like they need a harder durometer rubber for the cush, easily done without having to contact CZ, and as far as the anodizing, well, i have not heard much good about durability on anything anodized...

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It's really hard to come up with a good black dye that stands up to sunlight for very long, the architectural anodize treatments all involve some UV blocker. Purple tends to turn pink eventually too. The colors fade. But as far as DURABILITY, the surface is much harder than the aluminum or paint or powder coating; the "durability" is excellent. Sure holds up OK on your frame and swingarm and subframe, etc. doesn't it? That's why when they grow the crystal larger and slower it's called "hard anodize". And the anodize can be re-dyed to get the color back. The new V6 'Y' spoke is a very nice wheel, and I'm impressed with how they got the hub hollow almost like a Japanese cast wheel, but machined out thru the comparatively small bearing hole. The V-6 seem pretty comparable to the PVM. The stage-2 are OK but a lesser wheel. But I WOULD note that the forged wheels are not just lighter but also stronger than stock, and much stronger than magnesium wheels. I don't mind magnesium on the street, but forged aluminum is something you just don't have to ever worry about. Same goes for the Dyamg CF rims, which are the strongest rims (rims, not wheels) in the industry as far as I know. Many magnesium wheels aren't even approved by the DOT and equivalent european authorities for street use. All the CF Dymags, CF BST, and forged aluminum wheels are.

The Dymag cush seems about the same as the Carrozzeria; a lot of aftermarket cushes shuck, that's part of where they save weight and not a very good place to compromise, especially with the pulses a twin makes. Not a big expense to replace periodically. Some TL riders even shred the stock cush regularly too. The Dymags with the CF rims are a superb compromise. I used to have the Dymags that were all CF, and the CF spokes are the weakest part, the CF rims are incredibly strong. When I totalled the bike, the rims were embedded between the splayed rotors, but still held air to the tire. The guy at Carrozzeria said he'd tried a lot of combinations, including titamium rims or magnesium rims with aluminum or magnesium hubs, and he said the joint between spokes and rims was complicated and usually inferior. But Dymag has been successfully attaching rims to hubs on their wheels for years. the hybrid Dymags are about half the price of the all-cf ones. Now I wouldn't get either, I'd shop for a good deal on the BST Blackstone Tech all-cf. I like how their hub attaches to their spokes better than the bolts on the all-cf Dymag. I saw a Marchesini magnesium at his shop with a cracked spoke...weird.

Crap wheels? Hardly. Definitely better than stock, and a pretty decent street wheel, and stronger than cast magnesium with similar weight. But the V-spoke Carrozzeria V-6 or V-spoke PVM are nicer, and look it. Their spoke weight is really low out at the rim where it counts, yet they're really strong.