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    On my race bike I use the kill switch for the main ignition switch. I used the kill switch to operate a relay for the main ignition wires. I actually used a 4 pole relay so I could do the resister back to the ecu aswell but I'm sure that resister can be left connected permanently.

    You can't just connect the ignition wires and only use the kill switch as you will have the coils live continuosly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
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    You can't just connect the ignition wires and only use the kill switch as you will have the coils live continuosly
    Not so Sam - the coils (same circuit as the fuel pump relay & ECM also) receive power AFTER the kill switch - having kill off, will take power off the coils & pump & ECM.

    With no other 'road' functions - like lights, ancillaries etc, you could just use the kill switch - re-wire the neutral light power to after the switch.

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    I stand corrected Ken

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    Rare when you need it Sam!

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    Been playing on my mind....

    If you intend to use the stock clocks on a racebike or cooling fan then you would need further rewiring if you plan to use the kill switch as the main on/off switch as they will have continuous power, not an ideal solution in my opinion.

    The main red feed to the ignition switch comes from the Main fuse located in the starter relay unit. The ignition switch connects this to the Orange which then feeds fuse 3 and 4 before the kill switch. These feeds are for all the ancillaries like the clocks, fan switch, coolant temp, rev counter etc etc

    I re-wired my whole loom to strip off all the redundant crap and safety relays etc and also reverse-wired much of it to move the fuses under the seat.

    Regarding the ignition switch I basically cut and re-wired the kill switch wires (+ve from the battery and the other to earth via the relay) to contact the main Orange & Red wires at the ignition switch together, then everything works as it should and your battery won't drain over a short period due to having things permantly live

    Also don't forget you still need a 100 Ohm resister between the O/Y and B/W wires where the ignition switch was

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    .... I basically cut and re-wired the kill switch wires (+ve from the battery and the other to earth via the relay) to contact the main Orange & Red wires at the ignition switch together...
    That red part sounds a bit Oirish Sam - but agree that is the best way to do it.

    You can do it like this -

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    You're much better at photoshop than me

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    What's the resistor for? Where's it in the circuit?
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    Ken drew the resistor in both his drawings, the manual shows it as a regular switch but it switches a resistance. It's built into the ignition barrel.

    It's a nasty anti hotwiring feature.

    Leave it open and you'll get a C42 error code and the bike wont start. Short it out and you'll get a C42 error code and the bike wont start.
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    that resistor in the barrel stopped the thieving shit from starting my bike and driving away when i had my bike temporarily pinched last year

    wonder if by using a relay the switch could be junked and perhaps the led output from an alarm could make the circuit live or closed depending on
    alarm being on or off
    that would confuse the most tallented of scum when they try to look for ign barrel to rape

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