they were taken with my old 40d and 50mm f1.8 prime lens buddy.. not the most expensive kit in the world, I did used to have alot of money invested in camera equipment.. but no longer.

i'll see what way the blue wants to come off.. tbh it won't be seeing alot of moisture so even a stiff rubbing with a scotchbrite would probably sort it out. Yeah I had noticed the pretty miserable looking bolt on kits that were available and on quite alot of early tls. The first time I saw the integrated mount was on this yoke, it was listed for a tls but I had assumed, incorrectly, that it was a tlr yoke. Thanks for the info.