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07-03-2009, 07:13 AM
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Baby Twin
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SV Oil Filter
I'm new to the forum,Hello everyone.
I don't own a TL (yet),but my mate does and so I've been lurking for a while,to gather info for him,and I must say there are some great threads and some very helpful/knowledgeable people on here that have provided me/him with a lot of useful tips.Thanks.
On the subject of helpful/knowledgeable folks,whilst reading on Steves site I came across the article about the oil filter being different on the SV model,which raised a couple of questions:
Could using the wrong filter in anyway effect the clutch slip?
Is there still only one type of filter that can be used in an SV or are there other filters now available that work ok?
Can the oil type effect the clutch slip?
I'm just trying to tie up any loose ends before he fits a new actuator,push rod,bearing and spring and some Barnett clutch springs.
Cheers.
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07-03-2009, 09:36 AM
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Oil type can affect the clutch if it has additives for fuel economy found in automotive oil. As long as you use a good qualitly MOTORCYCLE specific oil, it should not affect the clutch whether you use synthetic or dinosaur oil. The oil filter I used on the SV was the K&N filter because it has a 17mm hex nut welded to the top and is therefore very easy to remove. It was the same as the TL I believe, the KN-138. The oil filter will not affect the clutch slippage.
I had a first generation SV, it got grabby and slipped at about 10,000 mi, I removed the plates and discovered they were too thin, as in worn out. I replaced them with stockers, I measured all my steels for flatness and put it all in, problem solved.

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07-03-2009, 09:44 AM
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It would help if you could pass on some more info about the bike in question. TLR or TLS? Year? Current Oil? Any history of servicing?
Also, where about are you? A local member maybe able to offer some assistance.
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07-03-2009, 09:48 AM
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Use the stock filter or a vendor that will follow stock flow/ backflow specs.
Some facts:
Oil is important
Filter is important
Replacing motors isn't fun or cheap
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07-04-2009, 02:51 AM
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Baby Twin
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Oops!Sorry my bad,I assumed that I didn't need to explain that I was referring to a TL1000S SV model 1997.But thinking about it now I realise there is a Suzuki SV
I was reading some of SteveTLS pages on his site and found the information about the oil filter in the TL1000SV 1997 being different to the other models,something to do with the pressure pipes inside,and it was this information that led to the OP.
The actuator is well worn and clearly not working as it should but we are just trying to eliminate any other possible causes of clutch slip.It seems pointless replacing all the bit listed in the OP and trying to set the clutch up if using the wrong filter effects the way it works,if this was any other model except the 1997 TL1000SV I would not have asked.
I have re-worded the questions:
Could using the wrong filter on 1997 TL1000SV in anyway effect the clutch slip?
Is there still only one type of filter that can be used in a 1997 TL1000SV or are there other filters now available that work ok?
Sorry about the lack of info in the OP,and thanks for your replies.
Cheers.
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07-04-2009, 08:06 AM
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oil filter cannot cause clutch slip
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07-05-2009, 03:58 AM
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Baby Twin
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07-05-2009, 04:08 AM
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the 97 has a five spring clutch and is vulnerable to slippage. barnett springs usually fix this.
Use only a motorcycle oil and replace the actuator cause theyre cheap and wear out .
if it still sips check the fibre plates and replace with genuine items rather than aftermarket.
If after all this it slips then grabs at higher rpm then the cam mechanism in the clutch basket is worn . several fixes exist but lets not go there yet.
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