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07-02-2009, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by chucks_net
no, not the core. The coil bolts to the motor which is also appears to be a ground connection.
Maybe not...
Looking at the schematic above The white (W) and Black/ Yell (B/Y) is switched or controlled ground.
to reiterate Coil theory... inductance... Plug capacitance
Timing applies a negative connection to the primary of the coil and voltage flows through the primary. A magnetic field expands around the primary and beyond the secondary thereby inducing a voltage in the secondary. The induced voltage/current adds to the existing + voltage applied to the O/W wire. The spark plug acts as a capacitor and will not allow the voltage to flow to ground until there is enough voltage to jump the spark gap.
Just because your primary voltage is increased does not mean a hotter/ better park. The field properties determine the current and voltage induced into the secondary but the capacitance of the spark plug must be adjusted -otherwise the spark will happen before the complete potential of the secondary is reached.
All this has been pre-calculated by Suzuki. Feed your coils to spec or get different coils with different spec. You will also need to change your plug.
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not sure, are you agreeing essentlialy with what I've detailed?
but not sure about the plug acting as a cap? Capicaitance is the storage of charge, plug is simply an insualtor till ovecome/break over.. Also Cureent flows, not volatge, otherwise, I think we agree.
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07-02-2009, 04:40 PM
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"everything" must find its way to the negative termainal (so called conventional cuurent)
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this "other end" is joined at the postive (primary/seconday input), and so the current will flow through the primary/scondary inputs, through the secondary windings, and out via the only way left, over the spark gap. to battery neg.
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To the negative with respect to its positive
The battery +ve is connected to its respective return (via the orange / white). Not the battery negative, you said yourself at this point the transistor is opened - so the ignition coil has no reference to the battery negative at this point in time..
It's got to be a circuit, the flow doesn't just look for any old negative just anywhere.
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07-02-2009, 06:24 PM
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GIVE US AN ANSWER - yes or no to the grounding mod and if yes where do we put them? 
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07-02-2009, 06:32 PM
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GIVE US AN ANSWER - yes or no to the grounding mod and if yes where do we put them? 
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Fit one to each coil and one to the rear fender and you will be good to go.

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07-02-2009, 06:33 PM
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GIVE US AN ANSWER - yes or no to the grounding mod and if yes where do we put them? 
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yeah....
give us electrical knobs some direction.... 
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07-02-2009, 07:12 PM
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It's got to be a circuit, the flow doesn't just look for any old negative just anywhere.
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That's exactly what it does.
What do you reckon?It's trained to go where you want? 
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07-02-2009, 07:45 PM
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Adding a grounding strap to the motor from the starter real is OK it you want to do a mod...
Better would be to maintain ALL of your electrical connections and dielectric grease them.
Spark plug acts as a cap. Spark plug gap changes the voltage needed to jump the gap. Until it jumps it is effectively a cap in line with the secondary coil. This directly effects the secondary field properties.
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07-02-2009, 08:46 PM
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Just tiny specs in the mirror
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not real -I meant "starter relay" -too late to fix...
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07-02-2009, 11:19 PM
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I thought that was for static electricity or motion sickness or something ...
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07-02-2009, 11:29 PM
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I thought that was for static electricity or motion sickness or something ...
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No,its the Minus Mod it stops static electricity effecting the coils base circle.
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