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01-31-2009, 10:01 PM
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Que?
Member #4632
Posts: 10,779
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Shiga, Japan
Sportsbike: 1998 Suzuki TL1000RW + 1986 Honda NS400R
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Kamikuza
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Originally Posted by Steve TLS
Honda CX500 circa 1982?
V2, Turbo, Production bike.
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I was nearly given one of those free ... luckily, I left the country before that could happen 
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02-01-2009, 06:03 AM
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Posts: 6,759
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Devon, SW England
Sportsbike: Tillis, What else?
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Originally Posted by Kamikuza
I was nearly given one of those free ... luckily, I left the country before that could happen |
I wouldn't say no to one being given away free ...... you should try one, you might just be surprised at it's capabilities   Far better bike than a normal maggot 
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Done: Fat-bar conversion; DNA Handlebar fairing; TLR Clock conversion; Yosh TLR Headers, one-off link pipes & Carbon cans; Relocated oil cooler; Relocated Coolant bottle; Transistor TRE; PCII; +1/-1 sprockets; Hyperpro steering damper & 916 style mount; Maxton Re-Valved forks; Tokico 6 pot callipers; HEL braided hoses; TLR Swing-arm; Bitubo shock; Yellow Box; 98+ Thermo-mod; JarkkoT +/- mod; Airbox mod; K&N air filter; Riflemans 1/5th; Harris carbon mudguard; Carbon Solo Seat Unit; Pyramid undertray; Powder coated wheels; Mini indicators; LSL rearsets; Scotoiler
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02-01-2009, 10:55 AM
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#33 (permalink)
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Evil Twin
Member #10576
Posts: 442
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lake Texoma, North Texas
Sportsbike: '00 TLR 1000 /'96'98'01'04 GSXR 750/'86 Kawasaki JS550sx/'80 Yamaha 175dt/'81 Yamaha 250xt
Riding Experience: 5yrs street, 7yrs dirt
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KMKRIDER
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts...3A1|240%3A1318 I picked one of these up awhile back and thought bout throwing it on the TLR but everyone says it wouldn't work, says that the case isn't good for over 150hp...I still want to try it kinda scared of what it will do to the bike...not too scared of what it will be after its done...i got ball...big ones too...lol jk...just curious of what 8lbs of boost would be like on the TLR...if I dont put it on the TLR ill put it on the GSXR '96 750
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 00 TLR-M4 full carbon w/wrap-Ivan's TRE-EK-Driven 17/43-DB Zero Gravity-No airbox 2 K&N air filter/oil filter-Spec Tre beather filter-Royal Purple liquids-custom 1pc tail-EBC HH-Pirelli Diablo's-NGK plugs-Mayo gap mod-lowering links-stretched+6-Ideal cycles undertail-busa fender-Vans sprocket/clear clutch cover/brakes/clutch reservior-GP Shift
Have: JDM Turbo/NOS kit
96 GSXR 750 Track Bike-98FI motor-01 inverted Showa forks/tripple-Yoshi full carbon w/wrap-04 fender-tail raisers-
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02-01-2009, 01:50 PM
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#34 (permalink)
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Superbike Twin
Member #11995
Posts: 243
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: south wales uk
Sportsbike: tl1000s + a couple of specials
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it would be interesting to find out how the bigger turbo would fair |
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02-01-2009, 02:26 PM
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#35 (permalink)
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Evil Twin
Member #10576
Posts: 442
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lake Texoma, North Texas
Sportsbike: '00 TLR 1000 /'96'98'01'04 GSXR 750/'86 Kawasaki JS550sx/'80 Yamaha 175dt/'81 Yamaha 250xt
Riding Experience: 5yrs street, 7yrs dirt
Pictures: 1
Life Wasted on TLZone: 1 Week, 0 Days and 19:38:03 Hours
KMKRIDER
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yea i got the access to a person that can weld and a person that has a pipe bender...what i have to do is figure out if it is possible to run a low boost (7lbs. to 28lbs. for the specific on i bought) on the TLR and not do any damage...i just have to pick up the rest of the little stuff...(blow off valve/waste gate/down pipe/oil line/etc.) lol everything but the turbo...i would love to be the first to do it and make it work..but info is just showing that it might just be a dream
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00 TLR-M4 full carbon w/wrap-Ivan's TRE-EK-Driven 17/43-DB Zero Gravity-No airbox 2 K&N air filter/oil filter-Spec Tre beather filter-Royal Purple liquids-custom 1pc tail-EBC HH-Pirelli Diablo's-NGK plugs-Mayo gap mod-lowering links-stretched+6-Ideal cycles undertail-busa fender-Vans sprocket/clear clutch cover/brakes/clutch reservior-GP Shift
Have: JDM Turbo/NOS kit
96 GSXR 750 Track Bike-98FI motor-01 inverted Showa forks/tripple-Yoshi full carbon w/wrap-04 fender-tail raisers-
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02-01-2009, 03:07 PM
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Posts: 6,130
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Location: Brisbane Qld
Sportsbike: TL1000s naked
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The Ring-In
No longer a rain god
butI'm still a C***and a
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not sure what the link was .........but turbos and boost?
Ok a turbo makes boost as a product of the amount of exhaust gas flowing thru it. take a turbo designed say for a 2litre engine running to say 8000 rpm and it produces say 15lb boost. Its optimised in many ways to have those characteristics including how it delivers boost at lower than peak revs.
put the same turbo on a 1litre engine and you might think 7.5lb boost at 8000... its half isnt it. well no there are so many things involved. efficiency and size being the basics.
then add the engine characteristics and specifically the camshaft. this influences the pressure in the inlet manifold and the exhaust manifold .
the waste gate only controls the upper limit of boost not the production of it.
you need a turbo that will produce pressure suited to the engine size and characteristics and a cam that can not only utilise the pressure but can influence thru the exhuast cam timing the creation of that pressure.
Ignition curve management is to be considered too.
I have a porsche 924 turbo and thru phill at surecam we developed a cam for my motor which is designed to maximise the exhaust gas pressure . it now drives more like a small v8 than a turbo 4 but its still scary fast over 4000 rpm .
there are no easy answers and the issue of plumbing is the most minor one.
DrH lives and breathes these problems daily and he's not interested so that must say something!!!!
I'm not in any way suggesting that this is a non starter , just highlighting the considerations. If you really wanna do it , it will happen, just do the homework and get the right bits , that is the pathway to success.
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.....133bhp 
oggi knobs. anodised barends, polished and machined GSXR1000 top triple with Helibars, single 7' headlight. arrow cans, custom rear peg mounts, white power shock and spring centre mounted on R swing arm, painted frame, polished lower gsxr1000 triple,K7 gsxr1000 forks, hugger, undertail, clear tail light lens, PC 11 , modded airbox, K&N air filter, radial calipers, braided front lines, polished rims and black painted wheel spokes, fan override switch , TRE, tank bra, american high capacity battery, gsxr1000 front guard. tlr gauges, rifleman CCC ,van reservoirs,custom overflow bottle, ducati 999 curved radiator, conventional mirrors, machined and polished clutch pressure plate, welded clutch cam mechanism. stainless brake rotor bolts. ring-in stainless exhaust bolts with brass nuts.
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02-01-2009, 03:29 PM
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Evil Twin
Member #10576
Posts: 442
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lake Texoma, North Texas
Sportsbike: '00 TLR 1000 /'96'98'01'04 GSXR 750/'86 Kawasaki JS550sx/'80 Yamaha 175dt/'81 Yamaha 250xt
Riding Experience: 5yrs street, 7yrs dirt
Pictures: 1
Life Wasted on TLZone: 1 Week, 0 Days and 19:38:03 Hours
KMKRIDER
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yea and im in no way a pro at this..first time for everything...i like doing things on my own..so i have to filter threw all the info and put trust into people on here i have never even met on the most part i take in whatever everyone says as the truth...as u said im going to have to do my homework either way i go (tlr/gsxr carbed)...what size of turbo would u suggest for the TLR?
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00 TLR-M4 full carbon w/wrap-Ivan's TRE-EK-Driven 17/43-DB Zero Gravity-No airbox 2 K&N air filter/oil filter-Spec Tre beather filter-Royal Purple liquids-custom 1pc tail-EBC HH-Pirelli Diablo's-NGK plugs-Mayo gap mod-lowering links-stretched+6-Ideal cycles undertail-busa fender-Vans sprocket/clear clutch cover/brakes/clutch reservior-GP Shift
Have: JDM Turbo/NOS kit
96 GSXR 750 Track Bike-98FI motor-01 inverted Showa forks/tripple-Yoshi full carbon w/wrap-04 fender-tail raisers-
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02-01-2009, 03:42 PM
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#38 (permalink)
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Silver Subscriber
Member #12363
Posts: 6,130
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane Qld
Sportsbike: TL1000s naked
Riding Experience: 35 years
Pictures: 0
Life Wasted on TLZone: 3 Months, 2 Weeks, 1 Day and 7:50:54 Hours
The Ring-In
No longer a rain god
butI'm still a C***and a
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That's probably a better question for DrH.
probably something off a jap car with 1litre displacement and 8500 top rpm would be a cheap starting place. and an integrated waste gate. once you have an idea I'd start looking on forums to see how adjustable the WG might be. you might want to play with the max pressure.
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Got to love the Zone, where else can you get Zen levels of wisdom and your ECU remapped, all for free
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.....133bhp
oggi knobs. anodised barends, polished and machined GSXR1000 top triple with Helibars, single 7' headlight. arrow cans, custom rear peg mounts, white power shock and spring centre mounted on R swing arm, painted frame, polished lower gsxr1000 triple,K7 gsxr1000 forks, hugger, undertail, clear tail light lens, PC 11 , modded airbox, K&N air filter, radial calipers, braided front lines, polished rims and black painted wheel spokes, fan override switch , TRE, tank bra, american high capacity battery, gsxr1000 front guard. tlr gauges, rifleman CCC ,van reservoirs,custom overflow bottle, ducati 999 curved radiator, conventional mirrors, machined and polished clutch pressure plate, welded clutch cam mechanism. stainless brake rotor bolts. ring-in stainless exhaust bolts with brass nuts.
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02-01-2009, 03:50 PM
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#39 (permalink)
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Evil Twin
Member #10576
Posts: 442
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lake Texoma, North Texas
Sportsbike: '00 TLR 1000 /'96'98'01'04 GSXR 750/'86 Kawasaki JS550sx/'80 Yamaha 175dt/'81 Yamaha 250xt
Riding Experience: 5yrs street, 7yrs dirt
Pictures: 1
Life Wasted on TLZone: 1 Week, 0 Days and 19:38:03 Hours
KMKRIDER
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what does the Eclipse displacement ..bc thats the size of turbo i got
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00 TLR-M4 full carbon w/wrap-Ivan's TRE-EK-Driven 17/43-DB Zero Gravity-No airbox 2 K&N air filter/oil filter-Spec Tre beather filter-Royal Purple liquids-custom 1pc tail-EBC HH-Pirelli Diablo's-NGK plugs-Mayo gap mod-lowering links-stretched+6-Ideal cycles undertail-busa fender-Vans sprocket/clear clutch cover/brakes/clutch reservior-GP Shift
Have: JDM Turbo/NOS kit
96 GSXR 750 Track Bike-98FI motor-01 inverted Showa forks/tripple-Yoshi full carbon w/wrap-04 fender-tail raisers-
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02-01-2009, 04:16 PM
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Que?
Member #4632
Posts: 10,779
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Shiga, Japan
Sportsbike: 1998 Suzuki TL1000RW + 1986 Honda NS400R
Riding Experience: Enough to know better!
Pictures: 0
Life Wasted on TLZone: 2 Months, 0 Weeks, 3 Days and 1:39:10 Hours
Kamikuza
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There's 660cc engines here with Turbos ... my Pajero Mini has one. The Pajero IO or Junior in some markets is a 1L and I think it has a turbo 
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