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    Silver Subscriber tlrpunk's Avatar
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    wow. I bridged mine when it failed, i didn't know it could affect the engine's performance. I guess i'll be buying another one...
    2000 Yellow TLR
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    - Drivetrain: Stealth rear sprocket +2 w/Driven alum nuts, EK MVXZ gold 530 chain, Driven 17t frnt sprocket
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    - 20,500mi - 120 RWHP & 69 ft/lbs of torque

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    my opinion is it doesnt make any difference, not trying to stall this thread but only telling you my own findings, my TLS is virtually identical mechanically to my brothers TLS, both have K&N, PC2, aftermarket cans etc, mine has no clutch switch his has it,
    short runs, or long, theres no obvious differences we can tell in fuel consumption or performance, even if we swap bikes.. and yes before anyone asks our maps are very similar but with slight differences as his cans are open and mine run modified db killers,
    but as this has got the old brain box ticking now I will try his without the clutch switch just to confirm, will let you know
    Geffb,
    97 TLS, 4pot Nissins/Bendix pads, Braking Rotors, now changed to Armstrong waves & v.happy with result, Ohlins Shock-but now trying an R6 shok seems pretty good, Tuckshops orig revalved forks - but dont tell him..... flat bars, K&N, F00 ecu & PC2 with custom map, K6 radial front master cylinder, Harris rearsets, Arrow carbons, HID,s, Werks easy clutch, big grin - oh & bikes now all black

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    TLOTM Sept. '08 D'Ecosse's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by tek-troll View Post
    my opinion is it doesnt make any difference...
    Your butt-dyno 'perception' is just that - the reality of what is happening is demonstrable and has been.

    As SteveTLS quoted from the TLZone thread:

    Update Jan 2009 ffaspector a member on TLZone who has done some reverse engineering of the TL ECU and cracked a lot of the mapping confirmed half of what I presumed.

    Quote Originally Posted by ffaspector View Post
    Confirmed, sort of....

    When you pull the clutch in with a 5th or 6th gear (Static / non Auto / Smart) TRE fitted, you still get the Neutral Ignition Map, but you don't get the Neutral Fuel Map. You get the IAP Idle Map, which is noticeably richer...

    ....
    So - two strikes - the neutral Ignition Map and the IAP idle map.
    You could conceivably tune out the fueling differences with your PC2 but not the ignition changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D'Ecosse View Post
    Your bike is normal.

    The phenomenon with............

    .............time it is pulled in.

    I hope that makes sense - I understand the language barrier can not be helping here.
    Thanks D,Ecosse. Now i got it.
    Once again, you guys are great, when it comes to make bike tecniques understandable for us "not so nerd'ish" ;-)

    can't wait to get that new switch installed.
    If you can't wheelie a TL, you suck.

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    Guys I did the relay mod on my bike and its all fine,starts fine etc., BUT now my TRE is not working. I have a static TRE with a switch and now when TRE is ON rpm's doesnt drop like before. I disconnect the relay and TRE is working -rpm's drop when TRE is on and raise when clutch is engage..Is that normal? This let me think that the relay work not only when starter buton is depressed but when bike is running..? Is that supposed to be like that ? Thank you

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