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05-01-2009, 12:04 AM
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Superbike Twin
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Yakko
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Originally Posted by Godie
I also had the same problem. Missing 2 injectors.
I am from holland, and i could just send it to dynojet here in the netherlands without a fuzz. I even told them that i bought the unit in America. The did something for free on the unit (i have no clue what) but i got the 4 injectors back. I don't know why they are bitching about this US thing.
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Well i did contacted the Hans guy from Dynojet Europe in Oss (NL) and basicly he told me don't waste my time with this US model .... Even when i replyed him afterwards about the issue, not like i was "haha i fixed it anyway, sucker" or something but only for the knowledge sharing ..... little did i know  ..... He didn't even respond to that ...  .... so 
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05-01-2009, 12:08 AM
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Superbike Twin
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Originally Posted by imdying
d-dan, from the email I took it to mean that he wants to send you a programmer, and that he wants you to send it back to him when you're done with it... no?
I've flashed all of my DJ gear (PC3, WBC, Screen), never had any trouble. Seems unlikely that they do anything special, sounds like you guys just need the particular firmware they're using. If someone gets it, distribute it quick so it's freely available.
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True, only crap thing is .... i don't have anything that can read firmware from PC to a plain file, software provided by Dynojet only can flash/write and backs up nothing (read/save) in advance ...  Can such a programmer read and save firmware to file from a PC??
If we could .... we can (for example) compare firmwares ....
Which reminds me .... i think user settings are not part of the firmware .... so reading firmware and compare it to other firmware would not be an option it think.. Again it's not our job to reverse engineer the PC3 because we would like to know were exactly we can enable the 2 other injectors ....
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05-01-2009, 07:18 AM
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Just a quick reply as I'm on my phone. Dynojet basically told me to f@%k off as its a US serial number.
The guy with to programmer has gone quiet, I'll badger him a bit.
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05-01-2009, 07:34 AM
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The Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow Moderator
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Thank goodness us back to basics single injector TLS owners don't have this problem 
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05-01-2009, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by imdying
d-dan, from the email I took it to mean that he wants to send you a programmer, and that he wants you to send it back to him when you're done with it... no?
I've flashed all of my DJ gear (PC3, WBC, Screen), never had any trouble. Seems unlikely that they do anything special, sounds like you guys just need the particular firmware they're using. If someone gets it, distribute it quick so it's freely available.
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To me it sounds like an environment variable that needs changing within the onboard flash. And I'll bet that the standard public PC3 application won't program anything outside the allocated addressing for the customer personality data and firmware.
If this programmer does ever turn up, I'll sniff the USB comms (if it uses it, could be serial on the expansion port  ) whilst changing parameters or reflashing. I know of no other way of reverse engineering it, although I'm open to suggestions.
Sam, it still less hassle than a KTM! Tickover high? 
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1993 GPZ500 Road - 1998 GSXR-600 Track
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05-01-2009, 10:30 AM
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The Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow Moderator
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Originally Posted by d-dan
Sam, it still less hassle than a KTM! Tickover high? 
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Mine's ok  Might be getting sold though as I don't have time to use it 
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05-02-2009, 02:30 AM
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Baby Twin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yakko
Well i did contacted the Hans guy from Dynojet Europe in Oss (NL) and basicly he told me don't waste my time with this US model .... Even when i replyed him afterwards about the issue, not like i was "haha i fixed it anyway, sucker" or something but only for the knowledge sharing ..... little did i know  ..... He didn't even respond to that ...  .... so 
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Its funny because i contacted this Hans also.
But if i get it right. If you flash you powercommander it wil cause the 2 injector problem? Or is it a setting which is sitting dieper then the firmware.
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05-02-2009, 03:16 AM
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Superbike Twin
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Yakko
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Originally Posted by Godie
Its funny because i contacted this Hans also.
But if i get it right. If you flash you powercommander it wil cause the 2 injector problem? Or is it a setting which is sitting dieper then the firmware.
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This is his email to me ... not so funny i thought:
Hallo Yakko,
De door jou aangeschafte Power Commander is door grijze import, en dus niet via de officiële kanalen in Nederland terecht gekomen.
Dit betekent dat wij hiervoor geen technische support kunnen geven, je dient je te wenden tot degene waarvan de Power Commander destijds nieuw gekocht is.
translated it says:
Hi Yakko,
You purchased the Power Commander is gray imports, and not through official channels in the Netherlands either.
This means that we are no technical support can give you you need to contact the person whose Power Commander had been purchased new.

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05-02-2009, 05:38 AM
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Baby Twin
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Thats pretty sad of him
When did you send him this email? Mine was around august. I did first contact powercommander USA. A guy there told me to send it to hans.
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05-04-2009, 04:54 PM
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Evil Twin
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imdying
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d-dan
To me it sounds like an environment variable that needs changing within the onboard flash. And I'll bet that the standard public PC3 application won't program anything outside the allocated addressing for the customer personality data and firmware.
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Yeah, that's the only worry 
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