PC3 Map - No Airbox Lid, K&N on stock filter plate, M4 system

[tzr_andy]

As the title says, does anyone have a PC3 map for the above mods - there isn't one on the Powercommander website.
My PC2 has gone tits up today which has a custom map for the mods, but I doubt if I can load this map into a PC3 (or they'd all be in the same place on the website).
If I can't use the PC2 map, can it be as simple as copying the numbers from the PC2 map into a new PC3 map as we're dealing with same x and y axis for the map (RPM & Throttle position) and the numbers in the map are percentages.
Your thoughts or a map that someone already has would be most useful. Don't worry if your map is for an 'opened up' air filter mounting plate as I'll just modify mine (been meaning to do it for about 10 years now!) My PC2 fault is causing the bike to run super rich - fouling the (new) plugs if its left to tickover/burble along.
Many thanks.

[Fat stu]

I have a map for the TLS PCIII, full Yosh, K&N & modded air box don't know whether it will work on the TLR??
PM me your email if it will be any good & I'll get it to you

[ricarsouljah]

apprantly, on the P/C website the map for the full yoshi system and airfilter will work with the M4 system, although i'd still take it to a dyno to make sure the fuelling is just perrrrrrfect

[tzr_andy]

After waves of assistance, I've done it myself - dead easy really as long as you can use a PC and Excel. Local road used as a dyno till I can be bothered to dyno it properly.

[tillerdog]

i'm curious as to why you removed the airbox lid,are you afraid of horsepower ?

[tzr_andy]

Odd thing to say given the level of info available.
Removing the lid gives a mid-range boost to BHP and torque at the expense of high rpm performance. My TLR started to run out of puff around 125 mph without the lid (and the previous PC2 map). The mods I've made to my PC3 map, based on the PC2 map means it pulls strongly to 150 mph with no problems (without the lid on).

[tzr_andy]

Latest update:
Bike has just come off dyno, reportedly making 142 PS (about 140 bhp). Given that dyno's are inherently open to some fairly wild fluctuations, I'd be confident to say that its punting out at least 130 bhp. Pretty good in my eyes, and strangely enough, it now feels a bit lean at the top end, so I may be richening it up to see what effect it has. Having read loads about dyno rooms, fans etc etc, I'm of the opinion that nothing quite replicates the effect of shoving air into a motor while travelling at 150 mph (given wildly fluctuating air pressures around the intakes, fairings and airbox / tank).
Will also be trying the fuel pump utility to see what that does to pick up (as its pretty instant already).

[koko_TL1000R]

You speech for PC-2 Map's have you some maps for PC-2 ?I have a PowerComander-2 but not have expirience with this........... and if you can help me with some maps and some advice

[jagboy1]

Originally Posted by tzr_andy

Odd thing to say given the level of info available.
Removing the lid gives a mid-range boost to BHP and torque at the expense of high rpm performance. My TLR started to run out of puff around 125 mph without the lid (and the previous PC2 map). The mods I've made to my PC3 map, based on the PC2 map means it pulls strongly to 150 mph with no problems (without the lid on).

maybe it'll go even better with the lid on........at least then you'll have the ram effect working

good numbers by the way.

[tzr_andy]

Am yet to be convinced by running with the lid on given the mid-range boost, which really makes a difference coming out of corners and I'm willing to sacrifice the absolute top end for.
At a recent trackday (on the old map) it would keep up with carburetted R1's and RSV Mille's on the fast straights.
Trying to find accurate data is tricky to find at the moment, especially regarding the benefits of ram air (as you can't replicate its effect on the dyno, and fuelling it at 80-100% throttle openings is likely to remain a bit hit an miss) unless I get a Wideband commander and start logging WOT runs.