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02-13-2008, 04:53 AM
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One Liter Duc Eater
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Brakes (I suck a search)
Have a set of 07 Busa callipers; 5/8 M/C braided lines with dot 4 fluid. When I installed them they where like a rock. The problem is when I leave the bike out in the sun or do not use it for along time the brakes become spongy. Will using a higher dot fluid help (what is the highest I can use for 07 Busa brakes) or is there any other was I can stop this form happening.
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02-13-2008, 05:39 AM
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One Liter Duc Eater
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Don't mix glycol- and silicone based brake fluids.
The dot4 you're running now is glycol based, 5.1 is too.
Dot5 is silicon based though.
Edit: I strongly doubt the dot4 in itself is causing the sponginess (is there such a word?). Using fresh brake fluid?
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02-13-2008, 06:51 AM
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My guess is that they're poorly bled. The dot is not to blame.
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02-13-2008, 07:05 AM
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The dot level is irrelevant to your issues, 3 or 4 or 5.1 are fine and all interchangeable. Sounds like its not properly bled, you have a fluid leak or a faulty master cylinder.
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12-10-2008, 08:29 PM
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I know this is from a few months ago, but I thought I'd mention that it's not a good idea to mix dot 5 with either 5.1 or 4. Apparently that is what turns the fluid into a jelly-like substance.
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12-14-2008, 08:14 PM
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Just tiny specs in the mirror
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ok...
dot 4 absorbs moisture and lasts longer
dot 5 does NOT. dot 5 is race spec and should be bled after every use
mixed should be treated as dot 5 and bled after use
shit I thought I put this in my FAQ.... guess not
moisture/ condensation builds up in the caliper as they heat up from use. If there is an air pocket where condensations builds up or a pocket of water then that pocket will heat and expand locking the caliper. dot 4 absorbs the moisture and prevents this to some degree. dot 5 does not and the system can build water pockets with every use and can become dangerous over a period of time if not maintained
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12-15-2008, 02:14 AM
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Can you get them back rock solid just by pumping the lever a few times, Simon? If so, sounds like a bleeding issue.
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12-15-2008, 04:48 AM
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try to bleed them again
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12-15-2008, 09:42 AM
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therer all good now this was in feb
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12-16-2008, 02:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sector5
therer all good now this was in feb
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