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11-23-2007, 01:20 PM
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One Liter Duc Eater
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TLR clutch on TLS
Hi all,
As my clutch leaver is flapping in the wind from all the wear and tear I got to thinking about if it would be worth putting a TLR system on my TLS. Would this be possible (would it be a big job) and would I get any gains form doing this(is it worth my time and cash)? As I read in a tread “I modded my TLR to cable clutch. It's piece of piss to do, better than hyd anyway!”
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11-23-2007, 03:30 PM
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It's an easy conversion and much lower maintenance than the cable system. As to whether it's worth it, that all depends on what you like. I have no problem with the hydraulic clutch acuation. There are several here who have converted an S to hydraulic and others who have converted an R to cable. Personal preference.
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11-23-2007, 03:53 PM
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I love the feel of the cable vs the hydro.
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11-23-2007, 04:25 PM
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unless your clutch has over 50k miles on it, there's no reason the entire thing should be replaced.b
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11-23-2007, 04:44 PM
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I think he's replacing the actuator mechanism not the actual clutch.
I swapped mine over for a TLR hydro setup and like it a lot, smoother, lighter feel and I don't have to replace cables and worm drives constantly. The cable setup might work ok on bikes that only see good weather, but they went to crap after a month or two for me.
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11-23-2007, 11:41 PM
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i did the same thing, went to TLR hydra clutch. I did however put a brembo radial master clutch cylinder on, and the feeling is just the best i've ever had on any bike. No more cable for me!
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11-24-2007, 01:31 AM
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Me Too!
Was pretty easy with a bit of dremmeling - just make sure you get the right parts 
It's probably not much better than a perfectly set up cable clutch but it's much more consistent and low maintenance and for me I prefer the feel 
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11-24-2007, 08:10 AM
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just make sure you get the right parts \\
So what will I need to get the complete system ? any extras
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11-24-2007, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by sector5
So what will I need to get the complete system ? any extras
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Well basically a TLR clutch master cylinder and hose, TLR clutch lever, TLR slave cylinder and TLR clutch pushrod. The TLR pushrod is longer than a TLS so if you have a '97 TLS with the five spring clutch get the TLR one. Also try and get the two bolts that hold the slave cylinder on as they are longer than the TLS ones.
Some people I believe used a TLR sprocket cover to save cutting the TLS one but I think you'll have problems with the holes lining up. I used a Dremel to cut mine down and I think it looks OK.
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11-25-2007, 07:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tantrum
Well basically a TLR clutch master cylinder and hose, TLR clutch lever, TLR slave cylinder and TLR clutch pushrod. The TLR pushrod is longer than a TLS so if you have a '97 TLS with the five spring clutch get the TLR one. Also try and get the two bolts that hold the slave cylinder on as they are longer than the TLS ones.
Some people I believe used a TLR sprocket cover to save cutting the TLS one but I think you'll have problems with the holes lining up. I used a Dremel to cut mine down and I think it looks OK.
If you need any help just PM me and I'll send some pics of how I did mine and hopefully answer any questions you may have |
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i've seen his handywork and it aint half bad for doddering bloke in a cardi 
oh and from what i can tell it does make a difference....i am thinking of going down that route later on if my op isnt a great success
by the way gray....i tried steve c's clutch which is the standard cable with the barnett springs...BUGGER ME it's heavy....standard springs all the way for me
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