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03-01-2010, 02:30 AM
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Water around cam journals
When I removed the cams due to valve shim replacement there was water coming out of the holes where the cam journal bolts go. On the front cylinder the journal was just a bit wet, but when I removed the rear cyl intake cam journal bolt it was like opening a can of beer: "Psssssh!" Clearly a release of pressure. The liqiuid was white foamish at first but then it got clear. I'm pretty sure its water and not coolant since it's not blue at all and does not smell like glycol. Could this bee some sort of condense? The garage heater was on and the temperature rose from ~5 C to ~15 C during the day.
Has anybody else experienced this?
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Done mods: Yoshimura SS System with Micron cans - Techlusion TFI - Pipercross + actuators removed - homemade SATRE - Riflemans 1/5 - Galfer wavedisks x 3 - Goodridge SS brakelines - Hinkle CCC - 17/42 - xenon LB - Newfren clutch springs and plates - black Airblade screen - fan switch mod - undertray w/ leds - gold fairing bolts - FP Racing levers - some cf and other minor mods
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03-01-2010, 03:47 AM
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Perfectly normal, no idea where it comes from, but I get it a lot on the engines I do  |
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03-01-2010, 06:59 AM
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Thank you for those words Sam, me and my wallet are relieved  
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Done mods: Yoshimura SS System with Micron cans - Techlusion TFI - Pipercross + actuators removed - homemade SATRE - Riflemans 1/5 - Galfer wavedisks x 3 - Goodridge SS brakelines - Hinkle CCC - 17/42 - xenon LB - Newfren clutch springs and plates - black Airblade screen - fan switch mod - undertray w/ leds - gold fairing bolts - FP Racing levers - some cf and other minor mods
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03-01-2010, 07:32 AM
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The Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow Moderator
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Originally Posted by NatoN
Thank you for those words Sam, me and my wallet are relieved |
I used to think it was a bit of humidity coming out of a sealed space but it's a mistery, only seems to be on bikes that have the caps removed for the first time. Maybe it's incredibly humid in Japan where they build the engines |
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03-01-2010, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Sam
I used to think it was a bit of humidity coming out of a sealed space but it's a mistery, only seems to be on bikes that have the caps removed for the first time. Maybe it's incredibly humid in Japan where they build the engines
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Damn, I should have saved the stuff that came out and put it on e-gay 
"Suzuki OEM moisture, aged 10 years in a TLR. For intake cam joirnal only"
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Done mods: Yoshimura SS System with Micron cans - Techlusion TFI - Pipercross + actuators removed - homemade SATRE - Riflemans 1/5 - Galfer wavedisks x 3 - Goodridge SS brakelines - Hinkle CCC - 17/42 - xenon LB - Newfren clutch springs and plates - black Airblade screen - fan switch mod - undertray w/ leds - gold fairing bolts - FP Racing levers - some cf and other minor mods
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03-01-2010, 01:42 PM
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Damn, I should have saved the stuff that came out and put it on e-gay
"Suzuki OEM moisture, aged 10 years in a TLR. For intake cam joirnal only" |
Well i had i also in mine, and it froze to ice as soon it got into air. There was 5- c in my shed when i pulled them off. Got nervous too,  but Sam makes me do the "No Worries" dance 
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03-01-2010, 03:40 PM
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Be careful at this point! When things go too well that last shim is dropped and disappears below the cam chain 
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Done mods: Yoshimura SS System with Micron cans - Techlusion TFI - Pipercross + actuators removed - homemade SATRE - Riflemans 1/5 - Galfer wavedisks x 3 - Goodridge SS brakelines - Hinkle CCC - 17/42 - xenon LB - Newfren clutch springs and plates - black Airblade screen - fan switch mod - undertray w/ leds - gold fairing bolts - FP Racing levers - some cf and other minor mods
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03-03-2010, 10:27 AM
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Should I use some sort of threadlock on the journal holder bolts? The service manual doesn't mention it but it I thought I'd ask here anyway.
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Done mods: Yoshimura SS System with Micron cans - Techlusion TFI - Pipercross + actuators removed - homemade SATRE - Riflemans 1/5 - Galfer wavedisks x 3 - Goodridge SS brakelines - Hinkle CCC - 17/42 - xenon LB - Newfren clutch springs and plates - black Airblade screen - fan switch mod - undertray w/ leds - gold fairing bolts - FP Racing levers - some cf and other minor mods
To be done: SS clutchline, repaint hump
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03-03-2010, 10:52 AM
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The Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow Moderator
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Sam
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Originally Posted by NatoN
Should I use some sort of threadlock on the journal holder bolts? The service manual doesn't mention it but it I thought I'd ask here anyway.
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No certainly not, there's a chance it will squeeze onto the cam bearing surface and set  |
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03-03-2010, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Sam
No certainly not, there's a chance it will squeeze onto the cam bearing surface and set |
That's quite obvious Should have thought of it.
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Done mods: Yoshimura SS System with Micron cans - Techlusion TFI - Pipercross + actuators removed - homemade SATRE - Riflemans 1/5 - Galfer wavedisks x 3 - Goodridge SS brakelines - Hinkle CCC - 17/42 - xenon LB - Newfren clutch springs and plates - black Airblade screen - fan switch mod - undertray w/ leds - gold fairing bolts - FP Racing levers - some cf and other minor mods
To be done: SS clutchline, repaint hump
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