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02-07-2009, 11:11 AM
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GP Champ
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Whats the trick?
I still have oil spewing out of the water pump weep hole.  I ordered up the new seal and installed it when it arrived. I made sure to tape over the sharp edges of the water pump shaft and greased everything up. Is there some trick to this that i am missing?  Could something else me amiss?
This isnt a slow leak more like a drip under throttle....
Jesse
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02-07-2009, 11:39 AM
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Just call me Ragnar Danneskjöld 
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No trick that I know of. I've replaced it twice when replacing the mechanical seal and haven't head a leak Be careful with the grease, the mechanical seal does not like grease (though the wp seal shouldn't mind a dab of grease).
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- TLR Akro Evo Ti Exhaust - PCII - 5.5" rear rim & 180/55 - Avon AV45/46ST tires - No Steering damper- Uni Filter -Relocated Temp sensor & 98+ t-stat housing/wp cover - TLRCrazy1 Fan Switch Mod - Dual Star heated Grips - HeliBars - 60k miles.
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02-07-2009, 02:49 PM
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N2wheelies
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 polish that shaft ive had to replace mine
twice in 65K miles. second time i had to leave the
oil seal about 2 mm from fully seated to miss
the groove worn in the impeller shaft.
new motor got a brand new shaft from the
get go since i was already in there. manual
describes everything pretty well including
keeping the water seal clean and free of oil
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02-07-2009, 02:51 PM
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Just call me Ragnar Danneskjöld
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BikePilot
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Come to think of it I polished up my shaft as well. 60k and still going though it is a little pitted.
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1997 TL1000S/V
- TLR Akro Evo Ti Exhaust - PCII - 5.5" rear rim & 180/55 - Avon AV45/46ST tires - No Steering damper- Uni Filter -Relocated Temp sensor & 98+ t-stat housing/wp cover - TLRCrazy1 Fan Switch Mod - Dual Star heated Grips - HeliBars - 60k miles.
9k mile summer ride report [summer '08]
Ride report: Oshkosh, Rockies, UT, NV, CA, Bajal [summer '09]
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02-07-2009, 02:52 PM
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when you pressed the mech seal, you have to be careful not to damage face behind it?
seem to remeber you have to use abit of sealant on the oil seal?
Has the tiny spring in the seal been disloged?
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02-07-2009, 03:36 PM
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GP Champ
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NineDV
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The spring that wraps around the seal is still intact. i dont recall sealant when installing the gasket (pulling out the ol shop manual now).
I did ding the thin metal that is sandwiched between the two seals on the case (on the flat non-sealing-or so i think surface) would that be causing the seal not to sit perfectly flat? The seal seated just fine.
Edit: Guess this will give me something to do tonight. Back in i go i guess.
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Last edited by NineDV; 02-07-2009 at 03:48 PM..
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02-07-2009, 06:14 PM
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GP Champ
Member #4329
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: The Amish Flat Lands; (Outside of Lancaster), Pa
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NineDV
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Turns out that the seal was twisted and not seated when i pulled the thing apart. sorted that then reassembled everything after polishing up the shaft. still leaks but much slower. Guess the next step is to try pulling the seal back as per N2 suggestion.
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02-07-2009, 06:22 PM
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Just call me Ragnar Danneskjöld
Member #2079
Posts: 24,449
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Cambridge MA
Sportsbike: 97 TL1000S, 01 CR250R, 96 DR350SE
Riding Experience: 14 years
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Life Wasted on TLZone: 3 Months, 3 Weeks, 4 Days and 13:03:46 Hours
BikePilot
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And by now the oil seal may be nicked a little. They often don't like being R&R'd more than once I hear (I've not actually tried it as I've always gone in with a new one). good luck 
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1997 TL1000S/V
- TLR Akro Evo Ti Exhaust - PCII - 5.5" rear rim & 180/55 - Avon AV45/46ST tires - No Steering damper- Uni Filter -Relocated Temp sensor & 98+ t-stat housing/wp cover - TLRCrazy1 Fan Switch Mod - Dual Star heated Grips - HeliBars - 60k miles.
9k mile summer ride report [summer '08]
Ride report: Oshkosh, Rockies, UT, NV, CA, Bajal [summer '09]
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02-07-2009, 06:47 PM
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Silver Subscriber
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YEP... like they said... pollish up your shaft buddy. I had mine all corroded and pitted... got it clean with my dremel and polished it up with my dremel again and used a new seal. Zero problems.
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02-08-2009, 02:15 AM
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AMA Pit Boss
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guess I'm lucky, my old 50k 97 has always been pitting and corrosion free. But Although I reused mine 6/7 times before it finally weeped. (Just used platic bag over shaft) it. I'd toss the seal and start again, probabaly nicked/deformed as been said
regards sealant? - beleive the oil seal retainer comes with a band of blue sealer? or was that the mech seal, or both cant remeber now 
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