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02-22-2009, 12:50 PM
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Just call me Ragnar Danneskjöld 
Member #2079
Posts: 24,465
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Cambridge MA
Sportsbike: 97 TL1000S, 01 CR250R, 96 DR350SE
Riding Experience: 14 years
Pictures: 0
Life Wasted on TLZone: 3 Months, 3 Weeks, 4 Days and 21:32:46 Hours
BikePilot
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Yep, but I think kawak could drop their price even more if they wanted - they can't have more than about 37 cents in R&D expenditures for the klx250s (assuming they've recouped R&D for the klx250/300 which has been in production as long as I can remember).
If kawasaki is smart they'll at the least drop a decent carb and a 300cc top end onto their KLX. Then it could compete with the yamaha in power and still not cost them any real money.
I believe that part of the reason for the 250cc bikes is displacement based license and tax restrictions in japan though.
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TL Zone Forum Staff - Resident RAIN RIDER
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1997 TL1000S/V
- TLR Akro Evo Ti Exhaust - PCII - 5.5" rear rim & 180/55 - Avon AV45/46ST tires - No Steering damper- Uni Filter -Relocated Temp sensor & 98+ t-stat housing/wp cover - TLRCrazy1 Fan Switch Mod - Dual Star heated Grips - HeliBars - 60k miles.
9k mile summer ride report [summer '08]
Ride report: Oshkosh, Rockies, UT, NV, CA, Bajal [summer '09]
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03-22-2009, 07:01 AM
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#42 (permalink)
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AMA Pit Boss
Member #376
Posts: 2,173
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Caledonia, Ontario
Sportsbike: 97 TL1000S, 05 DRZ400SM
Riding Experience: Since '88
Pictures: 0
Life Wasted on TLZone: 5 Days and 3:29:07 Hours
coyo
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Well, after the struggle of deciding to replace the DRZSM with a YZ426 (MX/SM) the guy has reneged on the deal apparently to part it out and make more money. The guy is an acquaintance of mine, or was, and in hind-sight became hard to contact once I told him I wanted to have it checked out by a mechanic friend. So in the end I've likely learned that there's something wrong in the bike and positively learned that this guy's word is worthless.
With Ontario laws now prohibiting the plating of non-street legal bikes regardless of mods but allowing previously plated off road bikes to be grandfathered, I went on the search again. This'll cost me more and there's no spares like the 426 had but the bike is newer (with new body/plastic design) with factory lighting, in better condition and comes from a more trustworthy source. Here's the plan;
2003 WR450
Excel wheels on Yamaha hubs
EBC brake kit
Trail Tech Vapor clocks

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03-22-2009, 09:40 AM
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#43 (permalink)
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Pygmy looking for a new name
Member #2230
Posts: 17,059
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: DFW
Sportsbike: 2003 Yamaha FZ1, 1998 KTM 250 EXC, Suzuki Bandit 400
Riding Experience: 9
Pictures: 0
Life Wasted on TLZone: 1 Month, 3 Weeks, 4 Days and 3:58:48 Hours
gixxerjasen
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Current Bikes: 2003 Yamaha FZ1 | 1998 KTM 250 EXC | Suzuki Bandit 400-Sold and bought back again
Past Bikes: 1997 Katana 600-wrecked | 2000 CBR600F4-Stolen | 2001 GSX-R600-Stolen | 1989 Honda CB1-Sold | 2001 Suzuki TL1000R-Traded | 2004 Suzuki GSX-R600-Sold | 2007 DR-Z400SM-Traded
A Kourier has to establish space on the pavement. Predictable law-abiding behaviour lulls drivers. They mentally assign you to a little box in the lane, assume you will stay there, can't handle it when you leave that little box.
Y.T. is not fond of boxes. Y.T. establishes her space on the pavement by zagging mightily from lane to lane, establishing a precedent of scary randomness. Keeps people on their toes, makes them react to her, instead of the other way round.
- Neal Stephenson
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03-22-2009, 10:25 AM
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#44 (permalink)
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Just call me Ragnar Danneskjöld 
Member #2079
Posts: 24,465
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Cambridge MA
Sportsbike: 97 TL1000S, 01 CR250R, 96 DR350SE
Riding Experience: 14 years
Pictures: 0
Life Wasted on TLZone: 3 Months, 3 Weeks, 4 Days and 21:32:46 Hours
BikePilot
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Cool stuff  IIRC on that model the tank/seat juncture is rather bulbos and fitting YZF parts is a popular mod.
Also I think in stock form the exhaust cam may be installed a tooth-retarded and there's some silly throttle limiter - all crap to make it pass emissions/sound requirements.
There may also have been some reliability issues related to the starter gear, but I'm not sure of the details.
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Josh 
TL Zone Forum Staff - Resident RAIN RIDER
Questions about The Forums? Click Here
1997 TL1000S/V
- TLR Akro Evo Ti Exhaust - PCII - 5.5" rear rim & 180/55 - Avon AV45/46ST tires - No Steering damper- Uni Filter -Relocated Temp sensor & 98+ t-stat housing/wp cover - TLRCrazy1 Fan Switch Mod - Dual Star heated Grips - HeliBars - 60k miles.
9k mile summer ride report [summer '08]
Ride report: Oshkosh, Rockies, UT, NV, CA, Bajal [summer '09]
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03-22-2009, 03:05 PM
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Super Motarderator ........ Mad Modder .......
Member #1458
Posts: 10,626
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Granbury, Texas
Sportsbike: 2008 Husqvarna SM610 2008 DR-Z70 2004 SV650S
Riding Experience: Since 1971
Pictures: 0
Life Wasted on TLZone: 1 Month, 0 Weeks, 6 Days and 11:22:44 Hours
OldTLSDoug
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Just get a Husky

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Be Good, Wear Gear, Do Wheelies,
Doug "OldTLSDoug" Basinger
2008 DR-Z70
2008 SM 610
2004 SV650S
G-Town Squid Squad
Feb. 04 TLOTM
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03-22-2009, 04:54 PM
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#46 (permalink)
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Chief Moderator for my kids Julia & Kristen
Member #260
Posts: 8,394
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Parker, CO
Sportsbike: '97 TL1000S for 8 years, Now an '06 FZ-1
Riding Experience: Into the old guy zone...
Pictures: 0
Life Wasted on TLZone: 2 Weeks, 6 Days and 3:41:32 Hours
Duken4evr
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Hey Doug, look what the deep cover archives coughed up. Some ancient XL600 urban air. Nice tennis shoes I'm wearing there  I used to ride it over to Signal Hill in Long Beach, wheelie up the 1/4 mile long pretty steep Hill Road, then swing behind to the business alley for some air time off an asphalt ramp.
That Husky of yours looks like a blast. So much trouble to get into on that one 
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I would feel awkward riding a Harley. The honky-tonk parking lot butt sniffing checking out each other's chrome encrusted doodads and then riding home half in the bag social scene they engender is not what my idea of riding motorcycles is about.
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03-22-2009, 07:23 PM
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#47 (permalink)
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Super Motarderator ........ Mad Modder .......
Member #1458
Posts: 10,626
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Granbury, Texas
Sportsbike: 2008 Husqvarna SM610 2008 DR-Z70 2004 SV650S
Riding Experience: Since 1971
Pictures: 0
Life Wasted on TLZone: 1 Month, 0 Weeks, 6 Days and 11:22:44 Hours
OldTLSDoug
'08
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Be Good, Wear Gear, Do Wheelies,
Doug "OldTLSDoug" Basinger
2008 DR-Z70
2008 SM 610
2004 SV650S
G-Town Squid Squad
Feb. 04 TLOTM
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03-23-2009, 05:48 AM
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#48 (permalink)
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Just call me Ragnar Danneskjöld 
Member #2079
Posts: 24,465
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Cambridge MA
Sportsbike: 97 TL1000S, 01 CR250R, 96 DR350SE
Riding Experience: 14 years
Pictures: 0
Life Wasted on TLZone: 3 Months, 3 Weeks, 4 Days and 21:32:46 Hours
BikePilot
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 that last pic is priceless!
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Josh 
TL Zone Forum Staff - Resident RAIN RIDER
Questions about The Forums? Click Here
1997 TL1000S/V
- TLR Akro Evo Ti Exhaust - PCII - 5.5" rear rim & 180/55 - Avon AV45/46ST tires - No Steering damper- Uni Filter -Relocated Temp sensor & 98+ t-stat housing/wp cover - TLRCrazy1 Fan Switch Mod - Dual Star heated Grips - HeliBars - 60k miles.
9k mile summer ride report [summer '08]
Ride report: Oshkosh, Rockies, UT, NV, CA, Bajal [summer '09]
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03-23-2009, 06:38 AM
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#49 (permalink)
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Chief Moderator for my kids Julia & Kristen
Member #260
Posts: 8,394
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Parker, CO
Sportsbike: '97 TL1000S for 8 years, Now an '06 FZ-1
Riding Experience: Into the old guy zone...
Pictures: 0
Life Wasted on TLZone: 2 Weeks, 6 Days and 3:41:32 Hours
Duken4evr
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Good ones Doug!
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I would feel awkward riding a Harley. The honky-tonk parking lot butt sniffing checking out each other's chrome encrusted doodads and then riding home half in the bag social scene they engender is not what my idea of riding motorcycles is about.
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03-24-2009, 06:46 PM
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#50 (permalink)
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AMA Pit Boss
Member #376
Posts: 2,173
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Caledonia, Ontario
Sportsbike: 97 TL1000S, 05 DRZ400SM
Riding Experience: Since '88
Pictures: 0
Life Wasted on TLZone: 5 Days and 3:29:07 Hours
coyo
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So the plot thickens. The above 03 WR with the above parts which will come out to aprox $4660 CDN (or less if I can talk him down) plus taxes after I've bought the wheels, tires, brakes, clocks and sprocket, or......
I just found another today; year unknown (guy's at work and his wife has no idea) YZ426 that comes ready to ride street or dirt for $3800 CDN (or less) plus taxes;
And extras;
So, an 03 WR which is heavier, comparable power (has YZ ex cam in it), electric start and factory electrics with battery but I have to buy the parts and build the bike (which could be fun) and is 10 minutes away...
Or an 00-02 YZ with kick only, aftermarket stator/electrics (don't know if it has a battery) and a bunch of spare plastics including a large capacity tank that's 2 hours away.
Thoughts, comparisons, suggestions? I know this is getting old, but I need more knowledgeable opinions to help my decision.
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