DRAG RACE ON NY I90

[Steve TLS]

Originally Posted by PAPPACLART

For the record, I have had countless drag races in town when it has been safe to do so!!

It's never safe Otherwise it would be legal and speed limits would be 140mph+

It's so safe that even when you do it in a controlled environment you still have to wear protective gear.

You say dragging on public roads doesn't make you an idiot. Remember that!

[UPSTATE TLR]

Originally Posted by Steve TLS

It's never safe Otherwise it would be legal and speed limits would be 140mph+

It's so safe that even when you do it in a controlled environment you still have to wear protective gear.

You say dragging on public roads doesn't make you an idiot. Remember that!

As I said before, try to tell me that you have never done it..........Or anything else that was ever unsafe for the sake of saying so. Every track guy thinks that everybody else is stupid for doing anything over the speed limit on a street. Well I can speak from experience in saying that not everybody can afford to go and run on the track whenever we feel like going for a spirited ride. I can't even afford to buy all of the equipment and odds and ends to even be allowed on a track, so until then I do plan on riding how I see fit and however I deem safe on the streets. I don't need people half way across the world to make that call for me. However I would be completely open to accept some donated leathers and some pre-paid track days if you think that is the only way I personally don't give you a bad name

[chief_rawka]

if you all wanted to go ten miles an hour and drive as safely as possible you'd be in full leathers on a 50hp Harley. stop judging he lives with his own choices not you.

[UPSTATE TLR]

Originally Posted by chief_rawka

if you all wanted to go ten miles an hour and drive as safely as possible you'd be in full leathers on a 50hp Harley. stop judging he lives with his own choices not you.

My point exactly!

[wsmc831]

Originally Posted by UPSTATE TLR

Yeah your probably right I guess you have some all mighty right to judge people as freely as you decide. I would love to hear some of the things people in your area say about you and post it up publicly. If you don't want to be judged then stop judging others

call it as I see it. don't like it? cry me a river.


feel free to judge me all you want, I couldn't care less. as far as what I do while riding, I have lots of fun, and I keep it the FUCK off the interstate, away from cars and don't post about being a dumbass on public forums. Since I haven't had a ticket or accident on a moto in over 10 years you can judge all you want, or you could just go piss up a rope, both will be equally productive.

[wsmc831]

Originally Posted by UPSTATE TLR

As I said before, try to tell me that you have never done it..........Or anything else that was ever unsafe for the sake of saying so. Every track guy thinks that everybody else is stupid for doing anything over the speed limit on a street. Well I can speak from experience in saying that not everybody can afford to go and run on the track whenever we feel like going for a spirited ride. I can't even afford to buy all of the equipment and odds and ends to even be allowed on a track, so until then I do plan on riding how I see fit and however I deem safe on the streets. I don't need people half way across the world to make that call for me. However I would be completely open to accept some donated leathers and some pre-paid track days if you think that is the only way I personally don't give you a bad name

ah yes, the old "you've probably done it so that makes it ok" crap.

you reason that since myself, for example, thinks dragracing some crazy idiot on the freeway is fucking stupid, that going over the speedlimit is the same thing.

believe it or not, 140 and racing on a public road is not quite the same as going 15 over the limit.

I realize it might be difficult to comprehend, but TRY.

but I get your point. because you can't afford to get to the track, the rest of us in public should make exceptions for you

[PAPPACLART]

Originally Posted by Steve TLS

It's never safe Otherwise it would be legal and speed limits would be 140mph+

It's so safe that even when you do it in a controlled environment you still have to wear protective gear.

You say dragging on public roads doesn't make you an idiot. Remember that!

It's about time and place Steve, you of all people should know. I am not talking about dragging in a built up 30mph zone with a school accross the road - now I would be an idiot if I did that Why does everybody always assume the worst

If I drag from some lights on a 3 lane Dual Carriageway that has no ajoining roads, with no traffic and a clear view ahead, I don't see the harm in that. Excluding a mechanical failure or anything else that is very very unlikely there is very little if no danger whatsoever.

The above is far safer then even brisk countryside railing without a shadow of doubt. The reason we have different speed limits on different roads is not just becuase it is unsafe to travel at certain speeds, on cetain roads with ever prevailing conditions but just as much to do with the fact that the general public can not be trusted and relied upon to use appropriate speed! So to make it simple we have limits. In a court of law if you can prove that your excessive speed was no danger to the general public you can get away with it...and it has been done but in most cases that would potentailly only really apply on an empty road etc

If you or anybody else wants to use the 'What if tactic', well that tactic can be applied to label any activity dangerous whether it be walking in the street or taking a dump! Did you know that; as safe as taking a dump is whilst reading your fav magazine/newspaper, people have actually died taking a dump from some kind of freakish Final Destiny type moment? Guess what tho, people still take dumps while still reading their fav rag/newspaper, and are not detered or affraid by the ''What If''

For all of you that think 'draggin' in all scenarios is dangerous, just think about that car (cars) packed with a family on a weekend vacation that is dwardling along in the opposite oncoming lane whilst you selfishly negotiate a series of corners at speed (in your mind it is appropriate beucause tou know how to ride blah blah))..... Seaking out that perfect line on that nice mountain road you often frequent. Just think when you are cranked over experiencing that Rossi moment (or whoever else you idolise) when oops a bit too hot, oooops dang I am running wide.....shite look I am heading straight for that oncoming car with the family inside. Happens all the time. Many more variables then an empty wide clear road that one might choose to drag on for just 4 gear changes and 15 seconds!!

We all like to frown on the supposedly dangerous and irresponsible actions of others but at the same time, depite ones own speeding, like to think that 'We' are the safe ones out on the road becuase our ''idea'' of appropriate speed is correct! And thats just it ''idea''!

The fact is: There IS AN APPROPRIATE speed for any given road, condition or rider skill not to mention Brain Cell Density but our ideas as riders, based on all of the above are often differnt and hypocritical.

I also love it when the country side knee draggers get so outraged at the stunters


Word of advise to anyone. Before you judge others actions on the road, take a VERY close look at what you would consider appropriate speed whilst out having fun on the public road because that same biker you are judging may share the same opinion about your riding, not to mention the motorist that has just witnessed what you would call appropriate speed but thinks otherwise.


Safe riding

[llamacide]

Originally Posted by chief_rawka

stop judging he lives with his own choices not you.

but so do the families of the people involved in the accident on the freeway when something goes wrong at 140 mph... can we judge then?

[chief_rawka]

Life is not safe at all. bad things happen, and as was well put by pappaclart. anyone who drives faster than us is a maniac, and anyone who drives slower is an idiot. It would be very unfortunate for all parties involved if something goes wrong at 140, but probably not too much worse than if he was doing freeway speed limits which are usually in excess of 70 mph

[wsmc831]

Originally Posted by chief_rawka

Life is not safe at all. bad things happen, and as was well put by pappaclart. anyone who drives faster than us is a maniac, and anyone who drives slower is an idiot. It would be very unfortunate for all parties involved if something goes wrong at 140, but probably not too much worse than if he was doing freeway speed limits which are usually in excess of 70 mph

http://www.cumberlink.com/articles/2...ews/news19.txt


seen pictures of that minivan? think he was going 55? 70?

there are 4 dead people who probably argue that the damage at 70 would probably not have been as severe as it was, considering the bike lodged inside the VAN after it flipped it over. Other rider was seen...were they dragracing? nobody but the guy that lived will probably know.

sure, life isn't safe, and speed alone isn't unsafe, but where you speed sure as fuck can be.