Castle socket for swingarm removal

Bikebikerboy · 10-01-2008, 05:25 AM

Hi guys,

I am looking at removing my swingarm to check and replace/re-grease the bearings as it squeaks now after constant riding in the rain.

1st question is can this be removed easily using the backyard method of screwdriver and mallet or will it be lock tite/torqued in place and require the castle socket.

If I require the castle socket, is there anywhere in Oz that sells them cheaply? I have seen a seller on Ebay in the UK that can do it for about $60-$70

Kamikuza · 10-01-2008, 07:38 AM

I got mine for 5,000 yen from the shop

seems to be about the price. Or 3,000 yen for a socket that you have to grind down. Someone said they had success with a mountain bike socket or something ... there's a thread round here somewhere ...

Patch11 · 10-01-2008, 10:11 AM

An angle grinder, 27mm socket, a vivid and alcohol was all I used.

You might the US is slightly cheaper.

JoE. · 10-01-2008, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patch11

An angle grinder, 27mm socket, a vivid and alcohol was all I used.

You might the US is slightly cheaper.

Not sure about the 27mm socket, but I know that a modified 32mm socket does the job.

JoE.

Kamikuza · 10-01-2008, 06:06 PM

If you factor up the cost of the socket and time involved in making it - surely it's cheaper just to buy one

Loki-TLR · 10-01-2008, 06:49 PM

Undo weird swinger axle bolt

Bikebikerboy · 10-02-2008, 05:31 AM

I could buy a cheap socket and modify it but by the time I factor in the cost of the socket and my attempt to modify it I would rather pay for one made.

I have looked at the thread Loki_TLR but it seems I may have trouble finding the bicycle BB tool.

Anyone bought something similar in OZ recently?

Octofinger · 10-02-2008, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bikebikerboy

I could buy a cheap socket and modify it but by the time I factor in the cost of the socket and my attempt to modify it I would rather pay for one made.

I have looked at the thread Loki_TLR but it seems I may have trouble finding the bicycle BB tool.

Anyone bought something similar in OZ recently?

It's the BB tool that fits the ISIS Truvativ BBs.

Shimano has one:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...px?ModelID=995

or
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=17702

Miles B · 10-02-2008, 06:06 AM

I've made similar stuff out of a piece of scrap metal pipe. Pipe wrench to turn it. Total cost $0, but I do have lots of old scrap metal pipe lying around....

Bikebikerboy · 10-02-2008, 06:16 AM

So which one is the better out of the 2? One is updated and "The outside diameter of the tool has been changed so it provides a universal fit on all Shimano and ISIS Drive eight-notch cups" But is that relevant to the TLR?

Also how do you turn it as the other side there is just a hollow circle?

Shimano has one:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...px?ModelID=995

or
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=17702[/quote]

Bikebikerboy · 10-02-2008, 06:19 AM

Actually, in the pic:

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=17702

It looks like on the other side you could use a socket or spanner to turn it. Is this right? Does anyone know what size socket/spanner you would need?

Loki-TLR · 10-02-2008, 05:42 PM

1) That's right
2) BIG very big..

Kamikuza · 10-02-2008, 06:01 PM

BUY THE OE ONE jeez it's only like $50 and if you'd just bought it would have saved all the time you spent in this thread

You remind me of the people who'd drive 30km out of their way and wait 2 hours for a tank of gas at 2 cents a liter cheaper than their closest servo

Loki-TLR · 10-02-2008, 06:11 PM

Well.. for me $50 is way too much for a tool that will hardly be used! Then I'd rather get it off the ugly way and buy something hex for replacement.

Kamikuza · 10-02-2008, 06:13 PM

It was a false economy for me ... maybe you have cheaper sockets over there or your time is worth less

tryr · 10-02-2008, 06:44 PM

Just go to Supercheap and buy a 30mm or 1-3/16" half inch socket.
Mark out the four slots and grind away excess making sure you leave a bit of meat on the pegs for fine tuning.
Make sure pegs are long enough and use file to trim off excess for snug fit.
Try and get the cut away area level all way around.
Took me about an hour and it works and I'm no tradesman.
I knew the cheap superworks sockets would be good for something.

Kamikuza · 10-02-2008, 07:35 PM

Taking an hour (not including going to the shop) it's already cheaper for me to order the OE socket

see what I mean?


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Kamikuza Resident Presidential Candidate Member #4632 Posts: 8,359 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Japan Sportsbike: 1998 Suzuki TL1000RW + 1986 Honda NS400R Riding Experience: Enough to know better! Trader Rating: (19) Pictures: 0 Life Wasted on TLZone: 3 Weeks, 1 Day and 20:20:54 Hours Kamikuza's Garage Kamikuza doesn't want to go back to work next week	I got mine for 5,000 yen from the shop seems to be about the price. Or 3,000 yen for a socket that you have to grind down. Someone said they had success with a mountain bike socket or something ... there's a thread round here somewhere ... __________________ It's time to change America! Peace and Prosperity! Kuz for Kommandant! FYI OEM prices - check here before your dealership rips you off!

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Patch11 One Liter Duc Eater Member #6676 Posts: 668 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Land of the Long White Cloud Sportsbike: '98 TLR Riding Experience: a few hours here an there Trader Rating: (8) Pictures: 0 Life Wasted on TLZone: 1 Week, 1 Day and 3:10:20 Hours Patch11's Garage Patch11	An angle grinder, 27mm socket, a vivid and alcohol was all I used. You might the US is slightly cheaper. __________________ so many possibilities and yet so little time . . . . so many things to modify and so little . . . .

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Kamikuza Resident Presidential Candidate Member #4632 Posts: 8,359 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Japan Sportsbike: 1998 Suzuki TL1000RW + 1986 Honda NS400R Riding Experience: Enough to know better! Trader Rating: (19) Pictures: 0 Life Wasted on TLZone: 3 Weeks, 1 Day and 20:20:54 Hours Kamikuza's Garage Kamikuza doesn't want to go back to work next week	If you factor up the cost of the socket and time involved in making it - surely it's cheaper just to buy one __________________ It's time to change America! Peace and Prosperity! Kuz for Kommandant! FYI OEM prices - check here before your dealership rips you off!

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Bikebikerboy Silver Subscriber Member #7890 Posts: 238 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Melbourne Sportsbike: 2001 Suzuki TLR 1000 Riding Experience: Since 2000 Trader Rating: (3) Pictures: 0 Life Wasted on TLZone: 5 Days and 15:48:56 Hours Bikebikerboy's Garage Bikebikerboy	I could buy a cheap socket and modify it but by the time I factor in the cost of the socket and my attempt to modify it I would rather pay for one made. I have looked at the thread Loki_TLR but it seems I may have trouble finding the bicycle BB tool. Anyone bought something similar in OZ recently?

10-02-2008, 06:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
Bikebikerboy Silver Subscriber Member #7890 Posts: 238 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Melbourne Sportsbike: 2001 Suzuki TLR 1000 Riding Experience: Since 2000 Trader Rating: (3) Pictures: 0 Life Wasted on TLZone: 5 Days and 15:48:56 Hours Bikebikerboy's Garage Bikebikerboy	So which one is the better out of the 2? One is updated and "The outside diameter of the tool has been changed so it provides a universal fit on all Shimano and ISIS Drive eight-notch cups" But is that relevant to the TLR? Also how do you turn it as the other side there is just a hollow circle? Shimano has one: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...px?ModelID=995 or http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=17702[/quote]

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Bikebikerboy Silver Subscriber Member #7890 Posts: 238 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Melbourne Sportsbike: 2001 Suzuki TLR 1000 Riding Experience: Since 2000 Trader Rating: (3) Pictures: 0 Life Wasted on TLZone: 5 Days and 15:48:56 Hours Bikebikerboy's Garage Bikebikerboy	Actually, in the pic: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=17702 It looks like on the other side you could use a socket or spanner to turn it. Is this right? Does anyone know what size socket/spanner you would need?

10-02-2008, 05:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
Loki-TLR GP Champ Member #7563 Posts: 1,442 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Netherlands Sportsbike: TL-r, Bandit 6 Riding Experience: 3 years Trader Rating: (5) Pictures: 0 Life Wasted on TLZone: 1 Week, 2 Days and 17:43:10 Hours Loki-TLR's Garage Loki-TLR	1) That's right 2) BIG very big.. __________________ ..Seducing TL rumble playing my mind once again..

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Kamikuza Resident Presidential Candidate Member #4632 Posts: 8,359 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Japan Sportsbike: 1998 Suzuki TL1000RW + 1986 Honda NS400R Riding Experience: Enough to know better! Trader Rating: (19) Pictures: 0 Life Wasted on TLZone: 3 Weeks, 1 Day and 20:20:54 Hours Kamikuza's Garage Kamikuza doesn't want to go back to work next week	BUY THE OE ONE jeez it's only like $50 and if you'd just bought it would have saved all the time you spent in this thread You remind me of the people who'd drive 30km out of their way and wait 2 hours for a tank of gas at 2 cents a liter cheaper than their closest servo __________________ It's time to change America! Peace and Prosperity! Kuz for Kommandant! FYI OEM prices - check here before your dealership rips you off!

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Loki-TLR GP Champ Member #7563 Posts: 1,442 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Netherlands Sportsbike: TL-r, Bandit 6 Riding Experience: 3 years Trader Rating: (5) Pictures: 0 Life Wasted on TLZone: 1 Week, 2 Days and 17:43:10 Hours Loki-TLR's Garage Loki-TLR	Well.. for me $50 is way too much for a tool that will hardly be used! Then I'd rather get it off the ugly way and buy something hex for replacement. __________________ ..Seducing TL rumble playing my mind once again..

10-02-2008, 06:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
Kamikuza Resident Presidential Candidate Member #4632 Posts: 8,359 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Japan Sportsbike: 1998 Suzuki TL1000RW + 1986 Honda NS400R Riding Experience: Enough to know better! Trader Rating: (19) Pictures: 0 Life Wasted on TLZone: 3 Weeks, 1 Day and 20:20:54 Hours Kamikuza's Garage Kamikuza doesn't want to go back to work next week	It was a false economy for me ... maybe you have cheaper sockets over there or your time is worth less __________________ It's time to change America! Peace and Prosperity! Kuz for Kommandant! FYI OEM prices - check here before your dealership rips you off!

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tryr Superbike Twin Member #6534 Posts: 131 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brisbane Aust. Sportsbike: b/w 02 tlr Riding Experience: Trader Rating: (6) Pictures: 0 Life Wasted on TLZone: 3 Days and 19:27:47 Hours tryr's Garage tryr	Just go to Supercheap and buy a 30mm or 1-3/16" half inch socket. Mark out the four slots and grind away excess making sure you leave a bit of meat on the pegs for fine tuning. Make sure pegs are long enough and use file to trim off excess for snug fit. Try and get the cut away area level all way around. Took me about an hour and it works and I'm no tradesman. I knew the cheap superworks sockets would be good for something.

10-02-2008, 07:35 PM	#17 (permalink)
Kamikuza Resident Presidential Candidate Member #4632 Posts: 8,359 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Japan Sportsbike: 1998 Suzuki TL1000RW + 1986 Honda NS400R Riding Experience: Enough to know better! Trader Rating: (19) Pictures: 0 Life Wasted on TLZone: 3 Weeks, 1 Day and 20:20:54 Hours Kamikuza's Garage Kamikuza doesn't want to go back to work next week	Taking an hour (not including going to the shop) it's already cheaper for me to order the OE socket see what I mean? __________________ It's time to change America! Peace and Prosperity! Kuz for Kommandant! FYI OEM prices - check here before your dealership rips you off!